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Friday, October 7, 2016

Boeing, Order-up! Not 30 But 40 Wide Bodies and a Side of Single Aisles Super-Sized

Yes, Boeing has turned the tide for 2016 with 30 787-9, 10 777-300-ER and 60 more 737 Max as the LOI side dish. Some say it’s a $18 billion dollar promise from Qatar. It’s much more than market share and dominance. Qatar originally ordered a vast numbers of Boeing 787's (30/30) and A-350's (43 +37). Boeing has delivered all its initial 30 787 and Airbus, well Airbus has dithered the Qatar patience since it went into a hole when coming to this day's announcement. Qatar has now positioned itself to cancel some A-350 orders as Boeing now has 787, 777-300 and 777X added to the Books where Qatar ordered initially 43 A350-900's and 37 A-350-1000 which the first delivery A350-900 now resides under a cloud of under performing operational metrics.



This Qatar order pressures the Middle East as it seeks wide bodies in earnest. The Emirates order has come full circle after it cancelled its 70 A-350's several years back, and now news circulates about with a new order placement for wide bodies fulfilling its fleet replacement and expansion designs. Boeing is the leading candidate even though Airbus is in the order fight with Emirates, who is now more open towards any Boeing offers than any Airbus apology for biffing its original 70 A-350's.

Now Qatar, who built its fleet around the A-350 as its feature fleet wide body airplane, has turned 180 degrees with this mega billion order for thirty 787-9's and ten 777-300-ER . Then comes another 60 Max it wants as it’s under LOI soft negotiations at this time. 

The importance of the Qatar/Boeing order should not be overlooked in the wide body and single aisle market place. Competition in the Middle East is something where every nation in the region watches, and each with keen interest towards one another, causing Mid-East competitors to react. The Qatar order signals, names have been taken and they will soon kick "others" fleet's sterns.

Ouch, really Airbus, you lost this order after you where the company (Qatar) favorite with having Qatar’s 43 A350-900 and 37 A-350-1000 orders placed not so long ago. Then Airbus started delivering the A-350 first aircraft in a lumpy stream of stop and go for Qatar's displeasure. They were unhappy with the lumpy trial and error production technique where Airbus delivery schedules were uncertain.

Boeing's production efficiency help win today’s order and saved Boeing's 2016 order book. Having thirty 787-9's added is a near term solution. Let's not forget the ten 777-300-ER's as critical to the 777X production transition (not yet there but strengthening).

I can't imagine what price Boeing offered for both models as they desperately needed production slots filled during the upcoming 777 Year. It may have diverted Boeing away from a monthly production reduction in the next year. 

The sixty LOI 737 Max caught my breath as it catches the program back on fire with future customers. Qatar becomes a sales talking point for future Boeing 737 Max sales pitch. Future customers will wonder why the Max? while they get sound Boeing answers for the customer’s own operations. Part of the 737 Max LOI, is coming from receiving a Airbus “burn”. Perhaps Airbus wasn’t careful for what they wished for as they experience "Boeing like" supply chain issues of too much too soon supply strain. Qatar is not happy as thy fell behind its own expansion models from Airbus' dithering in the factory. Emirates and now Qatar, who’s next? The A-320 engine wasn’t ready and it was flawed, hence the Max order.

Boeing can capitalize with the Airbus production quandary only if they keep its promise with Middle East customer for delivery. It must keep on time with Qatar fleet plans. The Boeing product must beat the Airbus product on the ground and not in air since flying parity is so close between the two producers.

The ease of ground maintenance, information systems and longevity between service cycles makes the Boeing business case. If a Airbus delivery promise can’t be met, those NEO's on the ground becomes a moot point. "So what", if an airplane travels 100 miles further on a tank of fuel and your point is??? An airline can save millions with operation expenses and timely delivery of promises. Qatar Air gave Airbus a burn today as does Emirates when it canceled its huge A-350 order several years back. It sent Airbus spiraling with those cancellations. Now Boeing gets 40 more wide body orders and 60 LOI Max's when it desperately needs it. Airbus team meeting time, 6:00:AM Paris time tomorrow. 




Tuesday, October 4, 2016

Pakistan Has Entered The 787 Jetway

A prior “Winging It” article highlighted the Middle East potential and then mentioned other countries in waiting for unknown quantities of wide body orders. Today the news reported Qatar has a big Friday Oct. 8th announcement and then Pakistan came to the forefront ordering eight 787s.


A “Winging IT” predictive summary is that Boeing will add thirty-eight 787's and an additional ten 777-300ER to its order book, thus bolstering its wide-body drive before years end. 

However the story won't end there as both the Saudi and Emirate orders have not concluded. Combined they may yield close to 100 wide bodies ordered with Boeing. The catch to all this, is military play as Qatar views the region beyond commercial aviation. They have a military dog in the fight. 

If all cards are played, it will astound the aviation market as there are more Middle East players in the wings starting with Turkey. In all Boeing may trek into 2017 with more than 150 wide body orders from this point forward to the end of 2017. The majority will be 787's with about 30 more 777's on the wings. All of this can come crashing down with a change of heart for Boeing but is not anticipated.

Monday, October 3, 2016

The Middle East and Boeing's Usual Suspects

Boeing needs wide body orders stat. It has been cultivating Middle East clientele for many years. The time has come where both the slack order year meets Middle East need.

Qatar recently received its last Dreamliner order while booking so many A-350's. Today they are disappointing and a bit angry with Airbus. In the highly competitive passenger aviation business it has left Qatar holding the travel bag. Its 787 works just fine. Qatar is thinking 787 at this time when Airbus is sluggish and not as dependable as Boeing's delivery schedule.

Saudi Air is in the works with buying US military aircraft recently approved by the US to do so. A 787 package is in the works with Boeing awaiting completion of the military deal. When that is complete expect an expansion of Boeing's 787 order book. All Things 787 indicates about 13 787's.

Emirates has positioned itself after considering Boeing or Airbus who for some reason Emirates abandon a huge Airbus order of 70 a few years back (ouch). Now the negotiation are in the final stages where Emirates is deciding on a package which is centered around environmental conditions of heat and tonnage. Emirates has been deploying new deliveries of 787-9's around the region. Since Emirates cancelled 70 of its A-350's back in June 2014, the Emirates plans have a gaping hole in its inventory and needs more wide bodies than what was ordered initially with its 787-9 orders. "All Things 787", blog reports: "I can see them taking 30 or so 787-9s and 45 787-10"

A full read of All Things 787 for October 1, 2016 will put this issue in perspective!


The point of all this order chatter is Boeing is anxious for filling its wide body order book including 777X types and the Middle East is ready for this accommodation. Even Turkey has a dog in this order fight but that may come in early 2017 as it arranges financing.

Friday, September 30, 2016

The 737 Landing Gear Is A NASCAR Restrictor Plate


The super speedways existing for stock car racing are too fast for the engineered race car. Rules came where the fuel would be governed by a restrictor plate, thus keeping the speed limit within race car's design limits for keeping the drivers and fans safer than if they didn't impose a restrictor plate. 

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The landing gear on the 737 gives the airplane a ground hugging stance where Boeing has painted itself into a development hole from the Seventies. Boeing needs to break this restriction of engine size in order to compete with Airbus since they are limited by ground clearance on its 737. It has a restrictor plate of sorts from the landing gear back to the engines and it has reached its limits on the top end of performance from a Max engineered configuration.

Boeing must “go long” with a landing gear. They must build a Middle of the Market follow-on for its 737 family and having a 737-10 won't do with the current 737 landing gears. However, implementing bigger engines or a taller landing gear will take too long and too much money for meeting the Airbus challenge of its A-321 market dominance. Additionally, the market capacity is shrinking as the A-321 grows its customers and market routes are filled for this class of aircraft. It's a dilemma Boeing has long recognized and has done little addressing it when building its wide body examples, and while depending on the 757 to hold off the Airbus onslaught. 

The time has come to bite the bullet and address the market segment of the middle of the market even without a plethora of order commitments, it must have confidence to move forward not with a four year delivery window from this point forward, but maybe in six years going forward. 

A four year window says, 737-10 as its “Hail Mary” throw when it needs a robust offering with foundational aspects built for the future. It needs to address a middle of the market aircraft without regard towards any hurried 737-10 response, but instead plug the market gap with a responsible 757 replacement having a range of up to 5,000 miles. It must go white paper with a taller landing gear, bigger engines, and all new technology completing an aircraft by 2022. The Boeing parts bin and suppliers can do it once the bullet announcement is fired sooner rather than later.

A 737-10 offering is just lame with a short landing gear restricting its possibilities.


Thursday, September 29, 2016

September 2016 787 Program Numbers




Here comes September with a solid performance. As Boeing reaches deeper into backlog it will definitely need more orders before years end. There are a multiple sources of customers pondering 787 orders which may spill into 2017 before an impact is felt. Qatar and Emirates are to name a few.

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Fig 1A.

Third Quarter 2016 snapshot orders and deliveries.


Production remains at 12 a month over ninety days supporting Boeing's guidance for 2016.

Fig 2.

Program Progress:

Fig. 3





Fig. 4 787-9 has taken over the YoY 787 production pace.



Fig 5. Production efficiency shows low WIP backlog and high delivery pace.




Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Boeing May Reach 777 Order Goal During 2016

Boeing needs about 40 777 classics a year ordered until the 777X reaches its delivery state. Today marks a step in that direction where it seems fifteen 777's will be ordered from an Arab client thus making for a total of 30 777's in process for order additions. The Saudi order for fifteen 777's is awaiting signatures and the Iran Order for fifteen awaits further negotiation expected to be completed before the end of 2016. After adding the already booked 777's for eight during 2016, brings the totals together for thirty-eight aircraft as a Boeing possibility. 

Last week it was a gloomy outlook. This week is has become a week of possibilities pointing towards the end of the year. If there are other orders out there pending as Boeing usually has and it posts by year's end, numbers may end up with a few added surprises before 2017 begins. Boeing has the potential for up to fifty 777's reaching its planning goal for 2016. Its more likely they will reach thirty-eight and certainly twenty-three. The game is afoot where the numbers could be from twenty-three to fifty 777's ordered for 2016

However, things can get off track very easy, especially with Iran while maintaining a "don't count your chickens before they hatch" condition. A cautious optimist would include those already booked at eight and the fifteen from the Saudi's as it closes a deal during the next month or so. 


Sunday, September 25, 2016

Boeing 787 Reading Assignment "Eight Years Later"

Borrowing from HeraldNet.com  comes the 500th Boeing 787 entering the factory with its swagger. This 500th body is destine for Air France in the form of a 787-9. Having this segway for a good 787 read while going forward without pause, is my humble space offered to do so. Without further ado, here is the Herald Net offering for a reading assignment.


500th 787 at the back of the line depiction 
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"...The airplane is in pieces, now, but it’s in the factory: the 500th Boeing 787.
Workers loaded the Air France 787-9 onto the Everett plant’s final assembly line earlier this month, putting the program on track to be the fastest to crank out 500 twin-aisle jetliners. Boeing’s plant here and in North Charleston, South Carolina, are steadily delivering Dreamliners — nearly 12 a month. And the 787s are making good on what matters most to airlines: the company’s big claims to make an airplane that slashes operating costs and opens new markets.
Boeing is working on further upgrades to the jetliner’s cabin, which has already set new standards for passenger comfort. No aerodynamic improvements are planned for now. However, Rolls-Royce’s improved Trent 1000 TEN engine is expected to be online in late 2017 — more than a year late — offering operators even better performance, said Bob Whittington, Boeing vice president and chief program engineer for the 787.

After the plane’s problem-plagued beginning, “the view is great” at 500, he said. It’s been five years today since Boeing delivered the first 787 to All Nippon Airways of Japan. The delivery was more than three years late. But the program’s early headaches — reliability issues, production backups, an emergency grounding due to smoking batteries, spiraling development and production costs — are almost distant memories now. “We’re out of the dark days,” he said. ‘Boeing magic’. The 787’s far-flung supply chain relied heavily on outsourcing to cut development time and costs. However, the aggressive strategy created logistical and financial migraines for the Dreamliner program. Boeing committed huge resources to solving the issues, including buying out its joint-venture partners in South Carolina. That opened the door for the company to put a second final assembly line there in 2011.

Boeing matched its desire to drastically reshape how modern jetliners come together with its ambition to make the most advanced passenger plane. The 787 is the first jetliner with an all-composite material body, whereas conventional airplane bodies rely on aluminum alloys. The plane would be just as strong as an aluminum one, yet much lighter. That, along with improved aerodynamics, more sophisticated software, powerful new engines and other innovations, would make the plane much more efficient than ones of similar size and range, Boeing promised.

But early 787s rolled out overweight and customers were underwhelmed. Several airlines refused to take delivery of the earliest Dreamliners, which started stacking up around Paine Field.

Boeing poured money and people on the problems, and steadily worked through them.

“I call it the ‘Boeing Magic’ — how people come together and take on problems and come up with solutions,” said Michael Griego, a senior manager for the 787 supply chain. “It was amazing to see” on the Dreamliner.

During those early days, Griego spent long hours walking the production line with engineers and mechanics addressing problem parts — what went wrong, where did it occur, and how best to fix it now and stop it from happening again? “It was intense” work — and important, too, she said. 

“Those were good days.”

“When I remember the early days and how hard we struggled, I almost can’t believe where we are now,” Griego said.
 Almost there in 2012, Boeing delivered 46 787s, its first full production year. It delivered three times that many last year, and is on pace to do so again this year. The current production rate is 12 airplanes a month. Actual deliveries are slightly fewer.

The company plans to turn out 14 Dreamliners a month by the end of the decade, and the program is already gearing up for the increase, although a Boeing exec said last month that there might not be orders to support that pace.

“We’re not quite a turnkey operation, but we’re almost there,” Griego said.

The company continues to smooth out production. The 787’s use of automated machines required for making its composite material airframe has flattened the production learning curve. That helped the program rapidly increase production. But the cost of making an airplane has not fallen at a similar pace.

That has many industry experts skeptical about Boeing’s ability to get production so efficient that it can make big enough profits off future deliveries to make up the nearly $28 billion it has lost up to now. The company makes enough money from other programs and services that it can absorb the 787 losses. The airplane maker keeps those losses from bogging down its balance sheets through an accounting method called deferred production cost. That has Boeing spread costs from today across the hundreds of Dreamliners it plans to sell in years to come, while counting future expected profits now. That approach helps buoy share price and, proponents say, gives investors a more accurate view of the company over time. Critics say it is using financial tricks to obscure reality.

Regardless, it also means Boeing has less cash now to spend developing new, even shinier airplanes. Earlier this month, it closed one 787 stall on its flight line at Paine Field, where customers inspect the planes and mechanics make last-minute fixes. At the height of the production problems, dozens of 787s not ready for delivery were parked around the airport. Now, the program has only eight dedicated flight line stalls. It closed a second assembly line in Everett in 2015 as the South Carolina plant’s efficiency improved.

In 2012, 16,800 people worked on the 787 program in Washington, according to a state commissioned study.

The number is considerably less now. Boeing does not publicly comment on how many people work on a specific airplane program.

Put the coals to it in the factory, “there are a lot of projects in the works for 2016 and 2017” to further improve production and reduce costs, said John Barnfather, a senior manager for 787 manufacturing. He helps run the last spot on the assembly line in the factory.

“We put the coals to it right here,” to finish any jobs that are behind schedule — something called “traveled work” — before the plane moves outside, he said.

The amount of traveled work spiked in 2014 after Boeing stepped up 787 production rate to 10 a month. It reached a point that the company stopped loading new planes onto the assembly line here for about two weeks in August of that year in order to catch up. The flight line was crowded with factory crews and contractors tackling overdue tasks. That amount is dramatically down these days, according to mechanics on the program.

Boeing heavily tweaked the 787’s design, as the first 787-8s out of factory were too heavy to make good on the company’s performance promises. Early planes were dogged with part problems and other headaches for airlines. Then there were the smoking batteries, which led to all in-service 787s being temporarily grounded in early 2013, while Boeing and partners worked on a fix, which came a few weeks later.

“Planes always start heavy and get lighter,” said Edmund Greenslet, an aviation industry analyst and publisher of Airline Monitor. “Planes are the opposite of people, who start light and get heavier.”

Engineers typically make design improvements after a new plane starts performing in the real world. “You’re looking to cut pounds wherever you can find them,” he said.

With more than 450 Dreamliners in operation, the plane “is delivering so far on what was promised,” Greenslet said.

The 787-9, which was first delivered in mid-2014, is showing about 15 percent efficiency gains — measured in fuel consumption per seat — over similar airplanes, such as 767-300ERs. The smaller 787-8 is posting single-digit gains in fuel efficiency, he said.

The first 787-10, the biggest Dreamliner, is slated to be delivered in 2018. It will be assembled only in South Carolina.

Performance also is improving the more airlines fly the 787 and learn how to get the most out of the planes, he said.

Airlines have used the 787 to open more than 100 new routes between distant cities that would have been money-losers with older, less efficient jets.

For airlines, Dreamliners are now almost as dependable as 777s, the gold standard for dispatch reliability — a key metric in commercial aviation that tracks how often an airplane type leaves the airport gates within 15 minutes of schedule. The 777 is well above 99 percent. The 787 stumbled early on, but now is about 0.2 percentage points behind the 777, said Whittington, the 787’s chief engineer.

So far, in-service 787s have backed up Boeing’s promise to build a hardier, more problem-free plane. More than 30 Dreamliners have had their first major scheduled maintenance, called a C check. The findings are in line with the company’s expectations for wear and tear, he said.

During the checkup, mechanics scour the airplane, pulling it apart to inspect major systems and components. A 767 is supposed to have a C check, which can take nearly two weeks and cost about $700,000, every 18 months. It should have a D check — the most intense inspection — every six years. Dreamliners can go twice as long between inspections, saving airlines millions of dollars during a plane’s lifespan.

So far, 787 is on track to realize Boeing’s promise to cut maintenance costs by as much as 30 percent. “The amount of unscheduled work at the C check point is dramatically less than for a 767 or 777,” he said.

“We took risks on technology, and we took risks on a new supply base and production system. And we took risks on schedule,” Whittington said. “And the airplane turned out to be great. The risks we took on the airplane turned out to be all worth it.

“If I had something I would say do differently, we might have not taken so many stretches on the supply base at the same time that we were trying to compress our schedules,” he said. “It’s just too much risk all at one time and taking too many giant leaps.”
To change aviation, “you have to take bold steps,” and Boeing has proven its ability to deliver on bold steps time and again, Whittington said. “It’s just built into our DNA.”...


Dan Catchpole: 425-339-3454; dcatchpole@heraldnet.com; Twitter:@dcatchpole.





Friday, September 23, 2016

China: Boom, Sleep, and Dreamliners

China's economic boom has successfully come to rest without a complete global airline expansion. It lags behind what happened in China during its last decade of business. The Chinese market place is in a deep slumber soon to awaken. It has sweet dreams of buying the 787 Dreamliner as the new wealth left behind during its current nap are still traveling everywhere. Plans are in place for global expansion via the Dreamliner. It dreams of wide bodies filling the Chinese sky with 787-9's. There are a bevy of subsidiary airlines in hot pursuit before the next economic expansion arrives. 

CAPA report:

"Hainan Airlines Group reported (18-Sep-2016) the following traffic* highlights in Aug-2016:

  • Passenger numbers: 4.3 million, +28.7% year-on-year;·        
    • Domestic: 4.0 million, +27.9%;
    • International: 256,530, +46.8%;
    • Regional: 25,260, +4.5%;
  • Passenger load factor: 89.8%, -0.9 ppt;·     
    • Domestic: 91.2%, -0.3 ppt;
    • International: 85.9%, -2.7 ppts;
    • Regional: 77.0%, -8.6 ppts;
  • Cargo volume: 31,070 tonnes, +6.0% 
    • Domestic: 25,800 tonnes, +1.0%;
    • International: 5220 tonnes, +39.8%;
    • Regional: 50 tonnes, +18.8%. [more - original PR]

*Includes traffic for Hainan AirlinesChina , Xinhua AirlinesChang’an AirlinesShanxi AirlinesLucky Air Company LimitedFuzhou Airlines and Urumqi Airlines."

Hainan is the test bed for Lucky Air’s march forward in the wide body market with its 787's currently moving passengers to and fro across continents. The plethora of airlines above is just scratching the Chinese commercial aviation surface and only coming from just one airline group! Boeing currently leads the Hainan pack.

Then of course there is a Chinese rebuttal to Hainan's aggressive 787 behavior.

Aviation Week:


Even though Boeing is bemoaning a difficult 787 sales year showing only nineteen 787 yet booked for 2016, it will announce many more sales before year's end, principally coming from China. The potential for Boeing is a strong upside as players are lining up for a market move towards the 787. The pilot hole is exampled by the above statistic is from the Hainan "Airline Group".




The group is but a smaller player for China's wide body aspirations. The question before them at this time is to go wide or narrow as the above link will indicate. The airlines, Ruili and Donghai are actively pursuing Boeing 787's over the 737. This has been a back and forth debate for those airlines and it sounds like they have settled in on wide body aircraft for its final decision as reported in the link above.



Boeing should make forty 787 orders by year's end, judging by the on-the-surface Sales-in-progress currently reported since the first of the year.

Thursday, September 22, 2016

Common Customers Boeing 787 Beats the A-350 Soundly

Have you ever wondered why airlines split its fleet between makers within the same types? Winging It has, and a startling realization emerges where Boeing 787's common customers with the Airbus A-350 reveals an interesting image. The Boeing 787 beats the A-350 with over 100 more 787's ordered since both offered its wide body aircraft. Below is a "Winging It" unofficial chart demonstrating where the battle is being fought between the two aircraft framing giants.
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Above is a list of the mid-wide bodied aircraft serving customers in common. The pink shows an Airbus advantage over Boeing with that particular customer.  Boeing has a 2-1 customer advantage over Airbus common customers where they have documented fifteen customer having a greater fleet order than Airbus. The inverse for Airbus shows an advantage over Boeing having only seven customers with larger A-350 orders.


The actual count for the makers show Boeing with 652-787 orders in common with Airbus showing a total of 550-A350's. The market is divided by a 54% 46% split with customers in common. Boeing sold 102 more wide bodies than Airbus having customers in common. The gap with common customers for both giants may increase for Boeing if Emirates splits its order currently under consideration.

Tuesday, September 20, 2016

Is Boeing Leaning Out Operations For The MOM announcement??

Along time ago, there was the book referring to operation "Market Garden" during World War II. Boeing has learned a lesson from operation "Market Garden" turned into the classic book, "A Bridge Too Far", and then on to the silver screen using the same book title.

Operation Market Garden "In a Bridge Too Far" Nijmegen Bridge, Holland
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A quick synopsis for the deeper meaning for Boeing, and a pending announcement by year's end concerning the "Middle of the Market" (MOM) aircraft. It’s plain to see the A-321 is stealing away from Boeing's 757 and 737-9 Max. Boeing must launch a counter offensive called operation "Market Garden", but first a historical perspective.

"Prior to Ryan's book, Market Garden had been a classic example of victors writing the history. Popular histories of World War II of the time usually tended to not mention the battle at all, mentioned it in passing or put Montgomery's spin on it as being a "partial success".[1]
A Bridge Too Far was responsible for bringing to the general public's attention the full extent of this massive operation, including a catalogue of errors and miscalculations, whilst highlighting the bravery of the participants." (Wikipedia)

Boeing is keenly aware of its resources and far reaching goals and is helpless to do something about it when it failed to address a 757 replacement five years ago. However, cooler minds had to prevail over the enormous sunk costs with three different programs. The 737 Max, 777X, and 787 Dreamliner while putting away the 757 Boeing replacement MOM into a box for further considerations of its family placement. It could only watch the erosion of its MOM market while surrendering to Airbus because of its over extended supply, personnel, and other over-arching resources (Financial) after developing the above named three programs.
The key components for a “New Market Garden for the MOM” has to go through an exhaustive check list before the European invasion of a 757 replacement patches together its family of aircraft:

  • Must have a design
  • Must have the Resources
  • Must have the analysis of the Market
  • Must have early commitments
  • Must have new productions plan in hand

On the other hand, Boeing has marched forward with many of the checklist items already completed.
  • It has a design
  • It has market analysis
  • It may have production space
  • It is currently sourcing (supply chain, personnel, and its production plan)
  • and... Is not a "Moon Shot"
The main thing Boeing is currently over extended until all programs are in hand.
  • The 737 Max
  • The 777 X
  • The 787 

Boeing is six months away from diverting engineering resources away from various programs as they progress forward. The 787 program has had an immense release of developing personnel with a mature supply chain and production capability. The 777X program has a new wing plant in Everett which can unleash current 777 300-ER production workers in phases while concurrently building the 777X's within the same house.

Finally, the 737 Max program is almost a slam dunk at this time as Renton, WA "got it handled". The Max is nearing the start of full production rate and having success without any engineering mishaps. Boeing is poised for a December 2016 announcement for the MOM (757 replacement) or AKA: "Operation Market Place" going past the bridge too far between the single aisle and the 787 aircraft types as it crosses over the Rhine River going over Airbus.