Quora Asked Whose Better The 787 or A350?

"Boeing 787 is a much better aircraft at the moment. Airbus A350 was a product of a knee jerk reaction. Time will tell which will succeed however. Both the aircraft are still under development."

And goes into a brief summary of some attributes of both aircraft.

How does the new Airbus A350XWB compare to the Boeing 787 Dreamliner?

Apollo 13 Rescued By The F35

Is the F-35 a "moon shot"? Many years ago as a 17 year old I worked on a ranch in Montana with only having a radio to listen of the world. That summer in 1969 there came the Chappaquiddick incident with the Kennedy's and then a successful moon shot. Man finally discovered there was no air on the moon and its gravity was the real deal, when having only a small token of earth's gravity. Those were the golden years of youth. Riding horseback every day and hitching up the draft mules for another run at the hay fields.

Gordon Ranch Montana. Barn where Maude and Ginny the mules lived. Road where the wolf stood.

Man went to the moon, and a politician swam the swamp saying, "it wasn't me". Americans bit the story line and I went swimming on the lake "next door". It was living in a real wilderness with grizzly bears, cougars, and wolves, even though they weren't supposed to be any wolves in Montana in 1969. They were there and I saw one every morning at 6: AM when hitching up the mules just down the trail from the barn.

Now comes the F-35, a Lockheed version of NASA's "Moon Shot". It cost hundreds of billions and it glitches as often as Apollo 13 did in its Journey around the moon during April 1970. The fighter discovers air and gravity are a real threat to its mission. The F-35 will use a vast array of new terminology like "fusion", "stealth" and "fifth Generation". It will become the foremost defense expenditure flying as a "fifth generation fighter" from this date.

Does the US really need the F-35 to only discover no one else can do it? Does fusion make a difference in the battle? Can the invisibility of stealth hide the facts about the program? All these questions will be answered in the next decade. A lot of money is riding on this "Moon shot". What I believe is not important since what facts are more important. If the F-35 makes America forget about Tom Hanks and Apollo 13, then mission is accomplished and the Universe is back in balance.

Tom Hanks script:

"Jim Lovell: [narrating] Our mission was called "a successful failure," in that we returned safely but never made it to the moon. In the following months, it was determined that a damaged coil built inside the oxygen tank sparked during our cryo stir and caused the explosion that crippled the Odyssey. It was a minor defect that occured two years before I was even named the flight's commander. Fred Haise was going back to the moon on Apollo 18, but his mission was cancelled because of budget cuts; he never flew in space again. Nor did Jack Swigert, who left the astronaut corps and was elected to Congress from the state of Colorado. But he died of cancer before he was able to take office. Ken Mattingly orbited the moon as Command Module Pilot of Apollo 16, and flew the Space Shuttle, having never gotten the measles. Gene Kranz retired as Director of Flight Operations just not long ago. And many other members of Mission Control have gone on to other things, but some are still there. As for me, the seven extraordinary days of Apollo 13 were my last in space. I watched other men walk on the Moon, and return safely, all from the confines of Mission Control and our house in Houston. I sometimes catch myself looking up at the Moon, remembering the changes of fortune in our long voyage, thinking of the thousands of people who worked to bring the three of us home. I look up at the moon and wonder, when will we be going back, and who will that be?"

CFRP Must Have A Turn-over Quotient For Boeing

Without really understanding the CFRP financial model it is plain to every observer, at some time it is necessary to turn over a product into the heap bin. This is necessary for customers to buy more of its kind. This is an important profit engine measuring product turn-over as a quotient. Boeing was instrumental in introducing a mass production model for super-huge plastic products called the 787, 737, and then the 777X family of aircraft. Over half of the 787 is CFRP and the "others" in Boeing's production plan call for CFRP X wings and some Max things. In fact all its Boeing commercial aviation product line will have a certain degree of CFRP in its constructs.

What is in Boeing's plan for turn-over of said products? An aluminum can of soda even goes to the recycle bin. The average land fill garbage dump avoids burying its plastics into the ground while recycling has change the American culture by having two garbage can at the curb. One for biodegradable and one for recycling. This brings to the attention of how long will a plastic bodied airplane last before replacing it in the market place. Hanging on to plastic airplanes longer also effects the financials of a producer such as Boeing. It must replace world fleets in a timely manner in order to make profits. The plastic production plan will reach saturation in the next decade when customers can still flying the CFRP's without fatigued and a need for replacement.

A turn-over quotient becomes an important part of a manufacturer’s forecasting model and the CFRP aircraft has thrown a wrench into the typical inventory modeling coming from the aluminum aircraft. Typically a traditional aircraft will stay with a fleet of a top line commercial carrier under twenty years before replacement. Models can be based on this assumption when calculation ordering and profitability cycles. What if an aircraft last longer like a 787, then what happens to all the modeling and a saturation of commercial aviation buying market. In other words there may be a period of time when buyers don’t need to buy an aircraft because its inventory has a longer shelf-life with its 787’s fleet. "They" can just maintain it indefinitely.

Fortunately for Boeing, improvements, wear of other non-plastic parts such as engines or avionics make it replaceable and outdated for more efficient examples in the market place. No longer can a product depend on wear and tear to retire its type for a new refreshed frame. It must depend on advanced innovations for retiring any plastic airplane within a financial cycle. Waiting for plastic to age is a long, long process. The old aluminum bodied aircraft have a shelf-life and then it goes to South America or Africa for its final gig. 

However, a plastic aircraft will fly as long as parts are maintained large and small. The metal components wear out and replacements are required. Boeing will need innovative new wings, body, and systems before a 787 should be retired. The 787 could fly for fifty years before the next big thing will replace it slowing the turn-over engine for Boeing at the factory level. Hence, a new Boeing division is needed. Having a retrofit and recycling division will be needed for plastic bodied aircraft. Installing new systems, engines and innovations, while making an old 787 body sing is what it needs to do in a factory setting.

A thirty year old 787 body enters the production floor where dis-assemblers remove all pre 2020 systems and parts and replacing it with new and enhanced performance parts and systems at a smaller cost than a new 787. The innovation factor is bolted on the initial frame from the pre 2020 CFRP period. Refitted aircraft will fly more efficiently than its former iteration with all the latest features because the CFRP portion is still good for another 30 years of retrofitted service.

The turnover comes from innovations added values on new production models. The retro fitted example is a continuation of its former self for less money but a high return on the updated example. Long gone are the days of moving an aluminum bodied aircraft to the desert for retirement after metal fatigue takes its toll like an aircraft cancer. The CFRP model can be resurrected. The most critical area is an aircraft's wing area and secondly the air frame. The 777X will have an all plastic wing and its body is engineered for the long haul making this aircraft a prime candidate for aviation's refurbishment program.

The Max series was designed for turning-over, since its relative lower cost of purchase allows the customer to trade-in for a newer model ever dozen or so years as part of it operation's cost of doing business. The 300 million class of aircraft need to have the life span of the Empire State Building such as the 777X family.

In conclusion, keep the plastic out of the dump and send it to the recycle bin when making it a new 787.

500-10: Odds Makers Lose Bet To Boeing

Boeing has reached its 500th 787 since its first delivery back in September of 2011. Boeing has assembled its first 787-10 on the "Charleston Factory Floor". The All Things 787 blog posted pictures and noteworthy statements on both events. (inhale)... Boeing is silent, perhaps waiting for end of year bragging rights, as it may announce more than these two milestones with closing order announcements, and it remains the world's largest aviation producer if that even matters.

Boeing.Photo from AllThings787

Post #1000 Winging It, A Boeing Assignment

It all started back on October 17, 2012 with the following link 1st link ever of Liftdrag.blogspot.com, below a Winging It opening salvo of witticisms with reporting. 

British Airways Announce Start Of First 787 Construction

In a way, it is sad to say a time has come to review and regroup this exercise with a then and now opening and a closing.

Andrew Boydston "Winging It" On A Hike In Montana 2013.

Then:

After suffering a massive heart attack I was pronounced dead at the hospital emergency and then a miracle happened when my body reached room temperature. My heart started again devoid of any medical attention they were five minutes away from bagging my body having only the last electrode attached to my chest removed when a beep occured on the screen. 

The RN in charge was there as was my grieving wife when she said, "He's got a beep let's work with it".  

An observer would note the impossibility as any human aware would. The hospital death report was to be updated with the simple phrase, "Then he lived", after the report documented Mr. Boydston died at 2:30 PM June 1, 2011. The cardiac team descended on my totally blue body with a purpose. My wife who held my foot at the time of life was astounded. She let go and the heart monitor flat lined. 

The RN shouted at her, "Grab his foot you have a miracle touch".

She did and my heart once again started without any medical intervention as reported. However, so minutes had passed between death and restart, as it was determined later, I had annoxic brain injury announced by the fine attending cardiac physician, who is also my Heart Doctor before this condition. 

Then:

He said to my family, "he will not live through the cath lab" for which is necessary for any chance of his survival." 

The process of sending a cath tube with camera up my leg and into my heart would surely kill me! I passed the cath test as they discovered a blockage in one of my twenty year old by-passes. Yes, I am a four-way by-pass recover-er from 1994. The same year I met Dr. Benjamin Carson, who has since become the new USA HUD cabinet leader on PEOTUS, announced on December 5, 2016. 

I went to symposium where he was the key note speaker on heath issues. I was keen to learn after my By-pass surgery in 1994 about healthy life styles.

After making it out of the lab, My Cardiac doctor came to my wife on that same day, and once again told my wife, "I would die as two patients that day had already died after chilling the brain. 

My brain was swelling from the trauma and needed ice packed around the cardio ares and brain area to save me. The Doctor told my wife I would die there was little hope.

I made the 12 hours of treatment and the brain returned to a normal state with what is called "annoxic brain injury”, the prognosis was the high probability of being a vegetable or at best limited mental functions. 

Then: 

After I made it out of the freeze my doctor disappeared from the hospital leaving this message behind to the hospital staff, "I resign and will pursue an education of being an attorney at law".

He made good on his vow and is now at the same hospital where I recovered and is a attorney for its operational functions. That was five years ago when he resigned. He finished law school in three years or less time. I have since started writing this blog during my rehab stint.

My rehab addressed memory problems and some other issues which are now solved. During rehab I couldn't even write especially with a keyboard. The therapist gave me a work assignment. Write about something you love or know about, and everything will fall into place.

Now:

I took her to heart, and started the "Winging It" blog.

To all the thousands of readers that have had the opportunity of reading this blog, thank you.

It’s been my pleasure providing aviation insight with tongue in cheek humor at the same time. I love sarcastic journalism mixed with factual information and observations. My self-imposed work assignment was to write about Boeing and other big things such as the F-35 and the USS Zumwalt Destroyer.

My own heritage goes back to the P-38 Lightening and SR-71 coming from my Uncle's journey going through wars as a fighter pilot, and Lockheed's key engineer flying the "Black Bird" from the ground.

The Boeing project is a culmination of a love for aviation and a need to exercise my wits. It is my hope, I could fuse the data noise from the aviation world as a useful tool, and I believe I have done so. Blog number 1,000 was a goal completed. The year 2017 is still up for grabs for this blog status, as I too become tired from effort but not in spirit.

I love life, and the pursuit of marvelous inventions made during the progress of mankind’s journey. In that Light, have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. We have much to be thankful for from our progress, and much more work to be done while alleviating the world’s pain with humankind’s suffering.

Day One The Grinch Wants A Bigger Gun

The DDG 1000, Americas longest and most costly Destroyer is going to get a better less expensive cannon round for Christmas. Already hailed as the most complex floating machine with a high end price tag of four billion dollars. The Grinch wants for Christmas a better gun.

Raytheon Excalibur Round Set to Replace LRLAP on Zumwalts

The Navy would not confirm any details of the change saying the change was, “predecisional.”

Huh? Predecisional!! tis the seasonal fah la la la la la la la (imaginary Christmas Tune) the Grinch will get his way as government intelligence is put to the test on this one.

The Long Range... oh well the LRLAP $800,000+ costs per rounds having a 60 mile reach would be replaced by Raetheon's Excalibur Round only going half the distance and costing just a third and will save the the national debt about two billion out a 20 trillion tab. Instead of 4 Billion spent arming the Navy ships with LRLAP's it could arm the same fleet for about 1.5 billion with 2,500 rounds of 155 mm shot. The "Let's Replace Ludicrous Artillery Projectiles" (LRLAP) program is taking a turn for Christmas.

Day 2: Alaska's North Pole Merges With An American Virgin

... and other news hits the wire at 10:pm. The Grinch couldn't have planned it better this close to Christmas. The Alaskan Air and American Virgin merger makes for an awkward headline when conserving headline words. The news editor gave it a thumbs up because both parties are celebrating in San Francisco and this a normal headline for the city by the bay. 

Alaska Air-Virgin America merger is in the works.

Alaska Airlines takes over operations of Virgin America

Day Three: That Free Finger Drink Could be Cancelled in Asia

Airlines in Asia are considering cancelling free alcohol on its flights over the ocean. The Grinch has found a solution for this problem. Three Free drinks are selected from a fish bowl drawing, selecting 12 Seat numbers at the start of each flight from economy. The Grinch could not be reached for comment as the story was still breaking. 

Three Free Grinch Drinks 

The Grinch has slammed charging passengers for alcohol on the other side of the date line which runs through the Pacific Ocean just off Asia. He was last seen in Singapore slinging his way across the flight line before he was lifting off.

Grinch Slinging his way to his next stop.

Free alcohol on flights may end as Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines costs rise

"Budget airlines including AirAsia and Jetstar, which is owned by Qantas Airways, have long tried to squeeze extra cash from customers during flights. Michael O'Leary, chief executive officer of European low-cost airline Ryanair, in 2009 suggested charging customers to use the toilet."

Day 4: Donald Trumps Attacks 150,000 Taxpayers aka Boeing Employees

Personnel attacks are never pleasant and going after big ticket costs are so popular, it’s like you are doing something without doing something. Boeing is such a victim of Donald Trump’s wrath. His “make it cheaper” mantra appeals to Billionaires wealthy enough to buy a 787 BBJ and is so "Donald". So just go do your thing before the inauguration day festivities and then shut-up until summer. I'll be on vacation by then and if I didn't hear it, it didn't happen. Vacations are special that way. The campfire eliminates those who revel in profoundness without a clue.

Okay Boeing make it cheaper and my guys will come and buy one.

Letters: Trump is attacking Boeing? Really?

Day 5 Weight Reduction Extends The Terminal lines

The 787, long known for its CFRP body is making the 787 per sq foot of passenger space the lightest of aircraft in its class. Over fifty percent of the aircraft is reinforced carbon fiber constructions. Going further in key areas, all portions of the 787 have under gone a goal that every component weight matters. From the flight crews flying work space to the lack of fasteners typically found on one of its cousin's aluminum constructs. The goal was to build everything lighter and more efficient. The 787 from passenger seat materials to the soap dish amenity signals a very light behemoth considering its girth.

Airlines bid to beat their weight problem

The Grinch has just proposed a brilliant ideal that Boeing is looking into from the Jet way level. The Grinch looked at CFRP early on, and he has suggested to Boeing that all passengers in the Northern Hemisphere are lacking in a high fiber diet and could reduce weight further on the 787 by insisting all airport terminal restaurants serve extremely high Carbon Fiber Reinforced Foods (CFRF) two hours prior to boarding an aircraft, thus making the 787 drop down to its lightest "load" per seat. The Carbon Fiber Reinforce Food could reduce the weight of each passenger by 5% before boarding a 787 aircraft.

The Board of Directors of Boeing were enthusiastic supporting the Grinch's proposal. Even though there is no developed or known CFRF's, Boeing will add another Billion to its "sunk" costs for the 787 program, bringing its total going into the "hole" at 30 billion dollars US.