First there was fire in the 787 control panels, back on its last runs, during test completion of the long delayed project. Then there was a United Aircraft reporting a generator fault and diversion flight because the number six generator failed, and Qatar's number 6 generator shut down on its 3rd Aircraft delivery flight. In total a test copy, two United aircraft and a Qatar unit all experiencing "all electric problems", when flying the 787. What does this hold for Boeing's aspirations in selling this Bird to the whole world? Let us quickly refine the inference.
Redundancy, due diligence, and extensive test process have won the day so far. Without it, would be told a different story. I believe these lessons are not lost on Airbus. Had Boeing rushed through three years of delays and did not conduct a copious amount of work on an all new technology aircraft, I would not want to think how it would magnify the risk.
Is it the generator, or the a newly designed power panels? That is the question before Boeing. So far they have endured the angst of Akbar Al Baker from Qatar, and the disappointment from United's management. But to the Boeing Company's relief, they have been manageable progressions of teething its new aircraft, that is so different than anything before flown. The 787 looks likes a metal aircraft until its wings lift skyward, has the same isles to walk down, and even the seats are close enough together to make money and remind passengers its an airplane after-all. Faking passengers into thinking, "Nothing new here, just newer and more convenient passenger gimmicks in play".
The 2010 panel fire established the importance of doing it right the first time. A redesign of the area forces out the opportunity of sloppy mistakes causing a fire, or other problems in the most critical area of the "all electric architecture" design.
Generator Fault events 2-4 (recent in the news for United and Qatar) are the reporting errors (faults), causing to shut down the aircraft's generator #6, because something wrong is detected, and therefore # 6 ceases operation. This is a built-in safety mode after detection of fault. Boeing and everybody else would like to know what happened from the control panel to the generator. Software, switching, or firmware glitch? Installation problems, inferior parts, or design problem? These are all the questions needing answers, and goes beyond just the basics. Redundancy saves the day, but it also could be a redundancy tuning problem. That is just one example of what engineers are asking of its programs, controlling all electrical flows with continuous back-up systems. Having this preventative redundancy system, protects from catastrophic failures, is done through its sequencing through various check-offs of its systems, and may cause a minor blip shutting down a generator in an irregular manner. What you don't want is a cycling of that type of problem that will shut down other generators in succession over time during a flight. Once again Boeing and its partners have a lot to test, even after its 3 years of delays. This problem sounds glitchy and can be solved with some extra testing, workings and implementation.
Qatar's concern is a underlying challenge of Boeing, for an aircraft performing as advertised. The CEO, Al Baker does give recognition for the aircraft's performance and general nature of a fine aircraft. His own fire is not for the electric control panel but for principals of having a 100% working copy of the 787 for its customers. Boeing is doing its job of extinguishing that fire with its hat-in-hand extinguishers, by continuing forward with Quality Management (QM) of continuous improvement through the birthing stages of a new technology. Continuous Improvement works and is found in the leading manufacturers in the world. The built-in safety measures allows Boeing to continue on this path. Risk are mitigated and solutions are found, refined and implemented. This is what Boeing is saying, when it states in a dismissive manner to a problem, that any new project has these types of problems during the start-up, and "we" will deal with them immediately, even after three years of delay. A strong downplay is too much by Boeing, as is a strong overplay by a customer.
Those close to the situation, probably know what happened already, but need to validate that assumption with a real replication of the incidents. I would not be surprise to see "a in storage test 787" flying again soon, focus on some customer concerns, and electrical testing issues. Boeing will validate the problem and certify the fix. Right now "All Things 787" has its score card at 0 Non Customer Flights. That may change soon.
Update 12/22/12:
ZA005 is now on the flight schedule! Do not know if this is related to electrical issues for testing. It is in the Non-Customer Flight Category. I can assume ZA005 is rolled out for flight testing for any new issues that Boeing is going to resolve. Note that ZA005 is a GE, and United/Qatars are GE's. So far the Rolls equipped aircraft have not shown an electrical issue like the recent GE powered ships. Boeing could be testing systems on ZA005 comparing to the faulted systems on the delivered GE powered aircraft, in order to determine what is different on delivered aircraft with its test model. Definitely checklist items for problem solving is on board the ZA005 along with any other new upgrades for testing.
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Monday, December 17, 2012
Friday, December 14, 2012
(Updated II Post Fire Brief) Boeing CEO says: 787 Problems Normal For A New Plane
Then: December 14, 2012
Jim McNerney, CEO of the Boeing Co., echos this company position from the top of the mountain. on Friday said, "that the problems the company is having with its 787 Dreamliner are to be expected, given that the aircraft is still new to the market."
Qatar Airways, CEO, Akbar Al Baker, bluntly doesn't like it at all. Al Baker's words are important, because he stands for an unforgiving march towards excellence, and takes no prisoners in this quest. His demands may sound unreasonable at times, even over-the-top, for all the attention given his aircraft.
“These problems are unacceptable because this aircraft has been flying for the last 14 months,” Al Baker said in an interview, referring to the Dreamliner, which entered commercial service late last year. “They have to get their act together very fast because we at Qatar Airways will not accept any more defects.”
My Boeing Note Pad: Immerse Boeing Vision and Mission Statement into Qatar's and every other customer's Vision and Mission. The customer is your Vision and your mission is to see that they reach that vision with your product. Therefore, partner with your customer's quest in achieving that Vision and completing your mission with excellence. Share in customer dissatisfaction as if it happened to your own vision, because it just did!
Thank Akbar Al Baker for keeping your Vision in focus and don't refer to it "as a new airplane on the market problem".
Boeing wanted to show off its Aircraft at Farnborough last summer in Great Britain. Lots of people walked on the Qatar 787 carpet while dropping stuff, dirt and travel sweat onto the aircraft. "Hey look, I scratched the mahogany arm rest with my purse buckle crowd." Boeing knew in advance they needed to deliver a pristine example to Qatar. It even needed 4 months more of work on it before final delivery. When you pay 150-230 million for an aircraft, Al Baker isn't just exited or giddy to get the aircraft. He is immensely focused on getting exactly what he paid for, "a perfect example of the 787". He wants no excuses of its new highly advance aircraft, with first time start-up cliches. That will not work on the Mr. Akbar Al Baker of Qatar. I respect both Boeing's and Qatar's plight, However when you purchase something more expensive than the Hope Diamond you don't expect it to arrive with finger prints, cracks found in the many facets and the stone setting having workman like glitches.
This brings us to the generator problem, and McNerney's quipping the problems saying, "are to be expected given its still new in the Market". He is talking to the "giddy and happy I've got a 787 crowd." Air India is excluded from this conversation, since they are still operating in Train Wreck Mode. United got a bad generator (electric control panel) problem, so does Qatar have a similar problem during its delivery flight. I am thankful for Generator (control panel) redundancy in the aircraft. However, there seems to be be a statistically significant problem, that goes deeper than an anomaly. Whether it is a programming issue for electrical flow control, or hardware fault, those remains to be determine. McNerney is right in saying its a new aircraft glitch, but it makes me wonder with all the thousands of hours flown by the 787 that it showed up on two brand new aircraft for United and Qatar, just months/days apart. Something changed in quality control for either the assembly on the 787, with its installation, manufacturing, or materials found in the electrical system. This is a serious crack for the Hope Diamond, which can and will be fixed, and should be found in the McNerney's right answers book.
Right Answer Page One:
"Mr Akbar Al Baker, we will make it right immediately and understand the importance of your concern. I will not downplay this in the press, as typical new airplane start-up problems. Boeing will do everything to make your $180 million diamond right."
Maybe this type of conversation has already happened, but Boeing should fall on its sword, rather than soft play the incident making Akbar Al Baker look dis-in-genuine by framing the problem as typical.
Check out newly (updated/additional) information on the electrical glitch in the "FLY On, 787" Link Below:
United says, "its a electrical control panel problem causing a fault reading. Citing the generator as the problem, while the generator is not the item faulting". The control panel has a problem. So Qatar shoots first and asks questions later method of PR, is same as the guy loudly exclaiming to the crowd, "it wasn't me", on a stinky elevator going up a hundred floors.
The "Now" started just three weeks later after this posting. With the Battery Fires and Smoke in Boston on January 7, 2013.
June 5, 2013 LiftnDrag:
Boeing has gone through the battery gauntlet with the FAA, Customers and suppliers; and as of June 5, 2013 is back on track. What kind of Akbar Al Baker anger still exist, is justified, as he had fired out this warning back in December of 2012, and then was grounded for four more months, until a fix was completed on the "New Battery Problem". Mr. Akbar Al Baker, you were right, as much as Boeing has tried to smooth relations via the press. I can't imagine what Boeing has told you in private. But I'm sure its a sword swallowing event of great proportions. Boeing is fully gutted in the PR world for its 787. I now know why you won't be a 787-10X launch customer. However, I can see you later on as a -10 customer, once you see how the aircraft performs, after a year in service. This is the price to pay for new technology, and sometimes quantum leaps are just that quantum leaps. You will order about a year out on the order book, after first delivery is determined. By then, the -10's landing's will have stop hurting, because the leap is so strong. Avoiding the -10 experimental year, will be a temporary solution, since you have many other -8's coming forward. The -10, inspite of Boeing's sales dogma, will be a great airplane. Being launch customer for the -10 is not necessary at this time, because you made your point well last December 12, 2012.
Fly On, 787.
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Jim McNerney, CEO of the Boeing Co., echos this company position from the top of the mountain. on Friday said, "that the problems the company is having with its 787 Dreamliner are to be expected, given that the aircraft is still new to the market."
Qatar Airways, CEO, Akbar Al Baker, bluntly doesn't like it at all. Al Baker's words are important, because he stands for an unforgiving march towards excellence, and takes no prisoners in this quest. His demands may sound unreasonable at times, even over-the-top, for all the attention given his aircraft.
“These problems are unacceptable because this aircraft has been flying for the last 14 months,” Al Baker said in an interview, referring to the Dreamliner, which entered commercial service late last year. “They have to get their act together very fast because we at Qatar Airways will not accept any more defects.”
My Boeing Note Pad: Immerse Boeing Vision and Mission Statement into Qatar's and every other customer's Vision and Mission. The customer is your Vision and your mission is to see that they reach that vision with your product. Therefore, partner with your customer's quest in achieving that Vision and completing your mission with excellence. Share in customer dissatisfaction as if it happened to your own vision, because it just did!
Thank Akbar Al Baker for keeping your Vision in focus and don't refer to it "as a new airplane on the market problem".
Boeing wanted to show off its Aircraft at Farnborough last summer in Great Britain. Lots of people walked on the Qatar 787 carpet while dropping stuff, dirt and travel sweat onto the aircraft. "Hey look, I scratched the mahogany arm rest with my purse buckle crowd." Boeing knew in advance they needed to deliver a pristine example to Qatar. It even needed 4 months more of work on it before final delivery. When you pay 150-230 million for an aircraft, Al Baker isn't just exited or giddy to get the aircraft. He is immensely focused on getting exactly what he paid for, "a perfect example of the 787". He wants no excuses of its new highly advance aircraft, with first time start-up cliches. That will not work on the Mr. Akbar Al Baker of Qatar. I respect both Boeing's and Qatar's plight, However when you purchase something more expensive than the Hope Diamond you don't expect it to arrive with finger prints, cracks found in the many facets and the stone setting having workman like glitches.
Qatar Airways, CEO, Akbar Al Baker
This brings us to the generator problem, and McNerney's quipping the problems saying, "are to be expected given its still new in the Market". He is talking to the "giddy and happy I've got a 787 crowd." Air India is excluded from this conversation, since they are still operating in Train Wreck Mode. United got a bad generator (electric control panel) problem, so does Qatar have a similar problem during its delivery flight. I am thankful for Generator (control panel) redundancy in the aircraft. However, there seems to be be a statistically significant problem, that goes deeper than an anomaly. Whether it is a programming issue for electrical flow control, or hardware fault, those remains to be determine. McNerney is right in saying its a new aircraft glitch, but it makes me wonder with all the thousands of hours flown by the 787 that it showed up on two brand new aircraft for United and Qatar, just months/days apart. Something changed in quality control for either the assembly on the 787, with its installation, manufacturing, or materials found in the electrical system. This is a serious crack for the Hope Diamond, which can and will be fixed, and should be found in the McNerney's right answers book.
Right Answer Page One:
"Mr Akbar Al Baker, we will make it right immediately and understand the importance of your concern. I will not downplay this in the press, as typical new airplane start-up problems. Boeing will do everything to make your $180 million diamond right."
Maybe this type of conversation has already happened, but Boeing should fall on its sword, rather than soft play the incident making Akbar Al Baker look dis-in-genuine by framing the problem as typical.
Check out newly (updated/additional) information on the electrical glitch in the "FLY On, 787" Link Below:
United says, "its a electrical control panel problem causing a fault reading. Citing the generator as the problem, while the generator is not the item faulting". The control panel has a problem. So Qatar shoots first and asks questions later method of PR, is same as the guy loudly exclaiming to the crowd, "it wasn't me", on a stinky elevator going up a hundred floors.
The "Now" started just three weeks later after this posting. With the Battery Fires and Smoke in Boston on January 7, 2013.
June 5, 2013 LiftnDrag:
Boeing has gone through the battery gauntlet with the FAA, Customers and suppliers; and as of June 5, 2013 is back on track. What kind of Akbar Al Baker anger still exist, is justified, as he had fired out this warning back in December of 2012, and then was grounded for four more months, until a fix was completed on the "New Battery Problem". Mr. Akbar Al Baker, you were right, as much as Boeing has tried to smooth relations via the press. I can't imagine what Boeing has told you in private. But I'm sure its a sword swallowing event of great proportions. Boeing is fully gutted in the PR world for its 787. I now know why you won't be a 787-10X launch customer. However, I can see you later on as a -10 customer, once you see how the aircraft performs, after a year in service. This is the price to pay for new technology, and sometimes quantum leaps are just that quantum leaps. You will order about a year out on the order book, after first delivery is determined. By then, the -10's landing's will have stop hurting, because the leap is so strong. Avoiding the -10 experimental year, will be a temporary solution, since you have many other -8's coming forward. The -10, inspite of Boeing's sales dogma, will be a great airplane. Being launch customer for the -10 is not necessary at this time, because you made your point well last December 12, 2012.
Fly On, 787.
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Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Boeing 787 not profitable for another 9 years?
I said prior in a prior posting, that I believe Boeing will reach
Break-even when 150 787-10's are sold or delivered. I don't know when
that will happen but, I believe this can be done well before 2021, but not by
2015. Boeing will have to exhaust a significant portion of its order backlog
through deliveries by 2015 to meet that goal. However, by 2015 Boeing will have
all risks retired, and certainty of "when it will exactly meet,
the profitability barrier beyond 2015". A 2015 forecast
for the year 2017 from Boeing, is a better forecast than this year’s 2012
forecast for 2015. Two years from now a solid view to the future will excite
the investor, and I believe Boeing will state it will make money by 2017, not
2021. A financial cushion of time would lean towards 2018. Boeing
will make money on the 787 project as a whole surging past its breakeven point late 2017 or early 2018.
Why? By then, Nines are long since airborne and are flying
out the door. Eights are beyond halfway through the order Que, with
refined models popping out the giant doors every three days without
hesitation. 2015 is time to secure the market share, because they will
know how well the A-350 will perform and also have a new 777-X in the offering.
It means that 2015 is not a 787's profitability year, but the year
becomes a major change for the airline wars. It's easy to see Boeing mastering
of plastics, to the extent that it will announce the building of a monumental
plastic winged airplane by late 2015. A mini jumbo putting to bed the 747, and
causing additional stress fractures on the psychic of the A380's
design team. A right sized mini jumbo would carry more towards the low
end number of 400 or high end of 300 passengers, then fly 8,000 mile and fit in
all metro airports with 9-10,000 feet of stopping and starting
distances. Airport boards put your shovels away and bring out the water cannons
when the 777-X mini jumbo comes to connect the world.
Logistics for building this type of model would be significantly
different than found on the 787. Large parts may go by ship from Japan in
10 days. Having a Boeing design, and spec built cargo ship enables landing cargo
from Puget Sound and then rail parts a very short distance from the "Puget
Drain" straight to Paine. Making the two miles from the north, wedge
between the affluent and the foliage. Why ship just-in-time parts by air? Just
to have those parts sit in in building 45-X or on a runway for six months,
while mechanics and engineers argue about how to assemble and fly this beast.
Parts by specially modified ships is better to shuttle in and out several
deliveries a week. This opens the door for fabrications to shop out of
LA, Tokyo and San Diego. Providing a safe transport of super large
barrels, wings and things for an all plastic mini jumbo. I believe by delaying the
777-X announcement, a plan B is in the works. Boeing desires moving away
from an all metal jumbo's and going for an all plastic mini jumbo. Boeing
has collected enough data, suppliers and technologies to do this thing with
style. The 777 still has a remarkable shelf life, allowing time to get an
plastic follow-on right, over the next few years, before a
2015 announcement for an all new 777X family of aircraft.
I like ships too!
This could be a Mini Jumbo Barrel, wing or other parts coming from a Boeing Boat landing near Mukilteo , WA.
Friday, December 7, 2012
787 Nuts and Bolts Report
By Fred George
Source: Aviation Week & Space Technology
Five pages of cyber Geeking on the 787 is worth the read. The Nuts and Bolts of it, really displays 787 complexity and development compared to an advanced 777 model. The 787 may operate and fly in a similar fashion to the 777, but under its skin its a very different world. This is a link worth saving when comparing the upcoming A-350 break-out in 2014. Please direct yourself to this fine article, presenting what "we" know about this miraculous bird. Save it and use for future reference as an electronic scrapbook on the 787. Refer to it later as Airbus tries to emulate Boeing's efforts.
Monday, December 3, 2012
Separation Of Design And Makers At Boeing
In a key strategic move by Boeing's chiefs, a proposal of separating the dreamers from the woodcarvers is going on. The dreamers are the designers and woodcarvers are boots on the ground. Currently these Boeing subgroups awkwardly work through a plethora of change incorporation, design change and production schedules. Please( Link Crains Chicago Business) to this article announcing a change through a separation of divisions with its engineering and production.
There are several questions obviously already answered prior to Boeing's decision.
At the time, these are just a few hurdles for consideration. I imagine engineering work stations will remain on the factory floor, assisting production during start up. I also assume that big logistics room also remains a player. Tracking all moving parts, reporting at any given moment; any part, any delivery time, or any change.
Therefore, the separation of duties with engineering and production does not lose the continuity of efficiency gained on the 787 project, but rather separates resources for better management of project cost that formerly co-mingled with production. With so many concurrent projects going on, this is more about efficiency and cost accounting measures identifying those cost and resources on specific projects within a division, and less about the team effort going forward from engineering to the floor.
Boeing will not drop the synergies found in the 787 project, but will rely more on those synergies for upcoming projects. However, identifying cost, work functions, and resources; is more important when managing 5 separate airplane building projects, and will keep Boeing away from the word "late" in the newspapers. Division management is most import when lines are clearly drawn for the direction given.
There are several questions obviously already answered prior to Boeing's decision.
Synergy Found On The Factory Floor
- How will engineering changes integrate to the production floor?
- How will production innovation migrate back for improving engineering design?
- How does engineer's concepts become a production reality?
- Will walls exist between production realities, engineers dreams and Bean Counter(accountants) boundaries?
- What does this do to the implementation process for new models from CAD to the floor?
- Is there an independent interface department between divisions responsible for transitioning concept to production?
At the time, these are just a few hurdles for consideration. I imagine engineering work stations will remain on the factory floor, assisting production during start up. I also assume that big logistics room also remains a player. Tracking all moving parts, reporting at any given moment; any part, any delivery time, or any change.
Engineer Work Stations On Factory Floor
Therefore, the separation of duties with engineering and production does not lose the continuity of efficiency gained on the 787 project, but rather separates resources for better management of project cost that formerly co-mingled with production. With so many concurrent projects going on, this is more about efficiency and cost accounting measures identifying those cost and resources on specific projects within a division, and less about the team effort going forward from engineering to the floor.
Logistics Center
Boeing will not drop the synergies found in the 787 project, but will rely more on those synergies for upcoming projects. However, identifying cost, work functions, and resources; is more important when managing 5 separate airplane building projects, and will keep Boeing away from the word "late" in the newspapers. Division management is most import when lines are clearly drawn for the direction given.
Boeing's No Rush, Rush Approach
Boeing is purported to say "we are not in a rush for the 787-10X and the 777X".
That being the Boeing statement of the week, I would like to indulge my thought on that plan or strategic topic for a moment!
1. The Boeing design team is working through lessons learned from the prior 787 debacle of ; overstated goals and delusional production hype has since been retired.
2. 787-10 is in the design bag and Boeing knows it can tweak configuration adjusting to market competition driven by Airbus' A-350.
3. A waiting game for Boeing has a two fold strategy:
Launch announcement is the trump cards which Boeing holds, and will play it when several items have passed by and cannot be reversed. One thing yet to pass, is Airbus's first attempt on the plastic airplane. Once the A-350 flies, then Boeing needs to counter in short order with the 10-X and 777-X. Its more of a competition question of timing, than a launch question that are derived from sales from the new models. Airbus is trying to undercut Boeing with the A-350, while Boeing has the high ground during the successful launch of the 787-8 and -9. Airbus has yet to clear the tower on its first flight. Boeing learned so well that the devil is in the details when it comes to building an all new technology. Airbus is gleaning technology from Boeing's sub contractors with its now proven technology. I don't know what Boeing holds for proprietary rights in its technology arsenal, that doesn't come under the fog of war and corporate lawyers.
However, Airbus needs to up its technological anti, not just just hide same stuff under its wings in innovative design tweaks. Boeing is now calling Airbus's hand in the high stakes game of monopoly. Boeing now holds the 787-10-X and 777-X in its hand as X cards. They will play those cards once Airbus goes beyond the point of no return for the A-350.
Airbus plays the "whatever Boeing does, we will build it 6 inches bigger game", and call it X-tra wide plastic body with extra fasteners and extra panel joins to boot. We will trick out this pony with some fancy stuff for your travel experience, giving the traveler the allusion, that bigger is really better. Travelers just want to fly in the biggest boat in the sky like on the A-380. Airbus is laying its design towards marketing appeal, while Boeing is trying to do both technological advancement with market appeal. Now Airbus is trying to catch up technologically, since its now working so well for Boeing. However, "copying is the sincerest form of flattery" concept is not lost on Boeing, for it holds two cards to lay on the Airbus's party. That is why there is a delay in the launch announcement for the 787-10-X and the 777-X.
That being the Boeing statement of the week, I would like to indulge my thought on that plan or strategic topic for a moment!
1. The Boeing design team is working through lessons learned from the prior 787 debacle of ; overstated goals and delusional production hype has since been retired.
2. 787-10 is in the design bag and Boeing knows it can tweak configuration adjusting to market competition driven by Airbus' A-350.
3. A waiting game for Boeing has a two fold strategy:
- Wait for Airbus, since Boeing currently holds the high ground on new technology.
- Lay to rest all new aircraft development questions, enabling fast roll out of new products when the time comes. The time will be shortly before the first A-350 flies.
Launch announcement is the trump cards which Boeing holds, and will play it when several items have passed by and cannot be reversed. One thing yet to pass, is Airbus's first attempt on the plastic airplane. Once the A-350 flies, then Boeing needs to counter in short order with the 10-X and 777-X. Its more of a competition question of timing, than a launch question that are derived from sales from the new models. Airbus is trying to undercut Boeing with the A-350, while Boeing has the high ground during the successful launch of the 787-8 and -9. Airbus has yet to clear the tower on its first flight. Boeing learned so well that the devil is in the details when it comes to building an all new technology. Airbus is gleaning technology from Boeing's sub contractors with its now proven technology. I don't know what Boeing holds for proprietary rights in its technology arsenal, that doesn't come under the fog of war and corporate lawyers.
However, Airbus needs to up its technological anti, not just just hide same stuff under its wings in innovative design tweaks. Boeing is now calling Airbus's hand in the high stakes game of monopoly. Boeing now holds the 787-10-X and 777-X in its hand as X cards. They will play those cards once Airbus goes beyond the point of no return for the A-350.
Airbus plays the "whatever Boeing does, we will build it 6 inches bigger game", and call it X-tra wide plastic body with extra fasteners and extra panel joins to boot. We will trick out this pony with some fancy stuff for your travel experience, giving the traveler the allusion, that bigger is really better. Travelers just want to fly in the biggest boat in the sky like on the A-380. Airbus is laying its design towards marketing appeal, while Boeing is trying to do both technological advancement with market appeal. Now Airbus is trying to catch up technologically, since its now working so well for Boeing. However, "copying is the sincerest form of flattery" concept is not lost on Boeing, for it holds two cards to lay on the Airbus's party. That is why there is a delay in the launch announcement for the 787-10-X and the 777-X.
Thursday, November 29, 2012
Monday, November 26, 2012
787-9, Behind The Cut And Paste News
The 787-9 is rapidly coming into fruition as reported by the Puget Sound Business Journal. Rather than paste this article here, go review it at its site. Puget Sound Business Journal . Most press clippings on anything, write a one paragraph/sentence intro, and paste the news wire into its news page with a different headline. However,
Puget Sound Business Journal by Steve Wilhelm, Staff Writer Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 2:47pm PST
Puget Sound Business Journal by Steve Wilhelm, Staff Writer Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 2:47pm PST
provides some nuggets for consideration.
1. Boeing's lessons learned department is going forth with new efficiency not experienced in the program.
2. Boeing is eager to move forward with the -9, because they have retired risks and originally... spoke out of both sides of its collective mouths, when selling a Dream. Because they did not have a clue on how long, long was, when talking to a consulting Geologist about epic periods of time.
3. Now Boeing is playing smug and cautious when comes to the -9. They have a winning poker hand, alluded to the Journal link above, and Boeing is showing its poker face.
4. Its really late into 2015 before Boeing moves the last of the sub 66 unit#'s, out of Everett. Behind the scenes a new unannounced strategy is going on there, where you have to talk to the Boeing customers affected, about what's the real story? Regarding customers parked aircraft (for four years, 2011-2015), at Everett that is 60,000 dollar question.
5. Ahead of schedule means either its a typo or ahead of the latest schedule, not the first schedule!
Having, played the 787 saga to its inventive conclusion, Boeing is taking a long inhale followed by a great exhale of meeting its promise. Inhale the humility and exhale the brag and sales announcements. Breathing clearly helps the company not choke to death over the large chunk of its trying to swallow early on bravado pie. The burping is almost over and its time to party with the deserts.
That being said, 2013 will be Boeing's year, as Airbus fights for relevancy.
That being said, 2013 will be Boeing's year, as Airbus fights for relevancy.
Thursday, November 22, 2012
Almost In With The Ten
Boeing's 787-10 is on track for a Christmas announcement of a commitment to launch. There are several significant suitors chasing the -10 dream. So far, I have seen BA, Singapore Airlines and Qatar express keen interest in a 300 passenger 6700 mile aircraft. BA expresses an interest for 60 and are in close talks for a delivery commitment in that range. Qatar wants to be Launch customer for Boeing on the -10. Singapore has geographic and business opportunity positioning in South East Asia. A perfect fit for Singapore's location and market.
In a earlier post I mention a low end break-even number for the Boeing 787 program over-all, is about 150 orders for the -10 added to what is already booked for the 787 -8-9's. A Launch number would be in that range. I have a feeling that Boeing wants a big splash number above 300 units committed by airlines, before Boeing will use the advantage of strong sales announcement in duo with an official production announcement. Call me crazy, but Boeing already has the 150 to meet break-even point and will announce launch, adding to the total 787 project. The -10 will push 787's over to profitability. A 300 unit bang in the market would give Boeing a panache in sales, if it gets closer to 300 MOU's for the -10 at Christmas. Where will the additional 150 come from by Christmas? There are some dark horses everyone has forgotten about. Here is my short list, (Checked Twice) of Crazy sales for the second group of 150 units from nice customers.
Qantas -(off the naughty list) canceled 35 units earlier, when they really wanted 10's to begin with. 35 is its new order
New Zealand- will by "In with 10", units.
In Japan- the original launch customers will go for about:
ANA 20 units, They are airline Juggernauts
JAL 15 units
LAN for 5 units
United, likes a Hawaiian Christmas and the Caribbean for 15 units to haul these location for Christmas.
Air Canada for 6 units for a Coast to Coast Canada, and a Caribbean Christmas.
Air France for 5, just because, you know Carnival....
UAE 5-10 because they can...
Ethiopian 5 because they need to....
Air India (not yet) Organized is a big word and India is not hooked on phonics.
LOT 5 Game planning for success, and is the ultimate European dark horse.
The trend here is customers already flying the -8 want the capacity of the -10. Those not flying yet, because of Boeing's late deliver schedules, are anxiously pacing the Boeing halls near the Big Factory doors with cigars in-hand, will start expanding their respective family's upon delivery.
Those who have not received its -8 or -9 yet want to evaluate first, after receiving its first load of 787-8's.
But you see, it wouldn't take very long for Boeing to get to 300, which is not the magic number. That number is when Boeing receives the first 150 batch of MOU's, from that group of three, the ones first mentioned at the top of the post. Then Boeing will formally announce the 787-10 program for production and its Launch Customer, along with other premier customers. Pride is on the line for that honor of being the launch customer. Watch for BA, Singapore, and Qatar near the end of the year to be in the Christmas Package under Everett's Pine Trees. Merry Christmas, Everyone and have a Happy New Year.
In a earlier post I mention a low end break-even number for the Boeing 787 program over-all, is about 150 orders for the -10 added to what is already booked for the 787 -8-9's. A Launch number would be in that range. I have a feeling that Boeing wants a big splash number above 300 units committed by airlines, before Boeing will use the advantage of strong sales announcement in duo with an official production announcement. Call me crazy, but Boeing already has the 150 to meet break-even point and will announce launch, adding to the total 787 project. The -10 will push 787's over to profitability. A 300 unit bang in the market would give Boeing a panache in sales, if it gets closer to 300 MOU's for the -10 at Christmas. Where will the additional 150 come from by Christmas? There are some dark horses everyone has forgotten about. Here is my short list, (Checked Twice) of Crazy sales for the second group of 150 units from nice customers.
Qantas -(off the naughty list) canceled 35 units earlier, when they really wanted 10's to begin with. 35 is its new order
New Zealand- will by "In with 10", units.
In Japan- the original launch customers will go for about:
ANA 20 units, They are airline Juggernauts
JAL 15 units
LAN for 5 units
United, likes a Hawaiian Christmas and the Caribbean for 15 units to haul these location for Christmas.
Air Canada for 6 units for a Coast to Coast Canada, and a Caribbean Christmas.
Air France for 5, just because, you know Carnival....
UAE 5-10 because they can...
Ethiopian 5 because they need to....
LOT 5 Game planning for success, and is the ultimate European dark horse.
The trend here is customers already flying the -8 want the capacity of the -10. Those not flying yet, because of Boeing's late deliver schedules, are anxiously pacing the Boeing halls near the Big Factory doors with cigars in-hand, will start expanding their respective family's upon delivery.
Those who have not received its -8 or -9 yet want to evaluate first, after receiving its first load of 787-8's.
But you see, it wouldn't take very long for Boeing to get to 300, which is not the magic number. That number is when Boeing receives the first 150 batch of MOU's, from that group of three, the ones first mentioned at the top of the post. Then Boeing will formally announce the 787-10 program for production and its Launch Customer, along with other premier customers. Pride is on the line for that honor of being the launch customer. Watch for BA, Singapore, and Qatar near the end of the year to be in the Christmas Package under Everett's Pine Trees. Merry Christmas, Everyone and have a Happy New Year.
Wednesday, November 21, 2012
To Be Or Not To Be! The 787 Question
"To be, or not to be: that is the 787 question:
"Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come"
William H Shakespeare: Speaking About 9 Across Seating In Economy
Is this the theme that Boeing travails over when selling its Aircraft to airlines, who in return "sardines" its passengers in economy? United has done that on its first 787-8 and the passengers have a say! "It's not any different than what we are flying on now because it lacks space." Nine across is too tight, and windows are too high", and so forth. It is sad to hear Boeing hand over its aircraft to any airline, and not take advantage of billions of dollars of Boeing's technological advances that were invested, while airlines cram customers together with a dream and a promise, using a similar line Boeing uses, but then those same airlines do not deliver on it, for the sake of extra revenue. They should buy a -9 and go 9 across adding more leg room. A dash 8 should have an 8 across in a plus section for discerning travelers, and then go nine in the cattle call economy section, with a warning on the overhead display, Warning: all passengers beyond this point sit like a 737 and fly like a 787 good luck". Passengers will have a way getting what they pay for, and then complaints are no way! Check your cheap ticket price and decide if you want to pay a little more for 787 style points. After all, it's your choice no complaints, please.
ANA's Domestic Configuration Nine Across
Link to passengers unhappy with what United did to a Dream
The "To Be" Part
Boeing has a grand dream and airlines have a business model. Both need the dream and the business model to get on the same page, otherwise, passengers will blame Boeing for what the Airlines did to the aircraft as far as the intrinsic value, and reputation of the 787. "Its just not a great plane when packing it like a commuter plane on a milk run." To those who sit in back, upgrade to plus section for a better seat, Don't expect a premium experience in economy on a premium aircraft. Expectations by Boeing are set at the Business class level, they used it on potential airline customer during its sales pitch. In reality, you are going for a ride on a great airplane in a cramped seat, while struggling to get your chin to the window, unless the plane goes into a steep bank after take-off. That is the "To Be Part" until carriers get it right, and use the aircraft as intended.
United Airlines' pleasure craft bridges sensibilities by a plus the legs theme, and not the shoulders. Pay a little more for stretching out better on long flights. Customers really need an understanding and gain better expectations before buying a ticket. Not every seat is first class just because its a Dream liner.
United's Play Book Below
The Not To Be Part
The unseen stuff such as breathing, lower cost maintenance cost, and fuel economy is the feel-good psychological real element read in the brochure, where it makes you feel better emotionally, but that vision is blotted out of view in your cramp quarters of economy. Because you are stuffed in, then the "so what" attitude perks up, and you miss out on all the advantages, Boeing has worked so hard on, for so many years. That Dream becomes a Not To Be, a human sacrifice pitched on the corporate bottom line of more revenue seats.
ANA's Eight Across
No To Be Out West, But a Leader Showing The Way
As the poet says, "Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;For in that sleep of death what dreams may come"
WHS: footnote:
Nine Across is a missed opportunity for making customers dream, but stockholders pleased with their own wit.
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